

Originally posted by coffeelingfine:I really want to get into HOI3's black ice but the set up is such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ chore. (Also keeping my eye on a mod not yet released which I've temporarily forgotten the name of, which looks to do much like Total War, but is built from the ground up for HoI4, starting in 1932 or something and going until much later). They dumb down a LOT of the more interesting Blackice mechanics with the SS/units/politics, but add a few events and more importantly fix up the annoying production issues of Blackice while keeping the technology tree mostly the same. If you find vanilla too easy and boring, and blackice too needlessly complicated. One of the creators is an absolute arrogant nutcase, but the mod overall is pretty good. However, there is a midway mod currently out called Total War, which basically is Blackice lite. (Building two different types of horses? really? SMGs and rifles seperately for basic infantry.wtf) I'd love it if they just reduced the needless production complication. It's a nightmare here, and I say that with respect. It also makes the game lag like mad when you have THOUSANDS of factories for HUNDREDS of different types of gear across the game all being tracked by your computer by mid-late game. It's cumbersome and annoying, and I WANT to love it but I can't. Several different types of clothing equipment, several different types of factories, several different types of guns/etc just for basic infantry units. Of course, Blackice needlessly complicates this as a consequence of their technology tree and a lack of forethought. Where building your economy was more or less ignored in HoI3 (your factories did EVERYTHING, so you just built factories and conquered resources), here it's crucial to maintain resource gain FOR factory productivity.


The side effect of this whole change is that Black Ice is almost a direct port of HoI3 Blackice, meaning a LOT of the mechanics aren't actually well suited for HoI4. In HoI4 you have a bit easier of a time building infrastructure/factories, but a MUCH more involved time in the actual production of equipment for your army, navy, and airforce. They automated the combat to a much bigger degree (for the worse, overall, in my opinion), while expanding events (through focuses, though they are still hit or miss in many places), and economic decisions (tech is mostly still the same as 3). In HoI4, they kind of did the exact opposite of HoI3.

It enhanced the game wonderfully and is my preferred method of playing HoI3. except for the battles there, which were tremendously involved.īlackice in HoI3 basically expanded technology, events, and unit design (mostly through technology, rather than direct production). If you ever played HoI3 you'll know that much of that game was actually more automated. Blackice in HoI4 is mostly a little overwhelming.
